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Well here's my take on it for what it's worth....I got backstage at the Orlando show, and talked to Ian and asked him about the future of the Cult.
I asked him "Will we be seeing the Cult come back any time soon?", and he said "No" with a smirk on his face and I said "You're kidding, right" and he
said "No, I'm not", so, then I said "Well, don't you miss it?" and he said "No, I'm caught up in the moment of all this right now" and I said "Well,
the fans really miss it" and he goes on to say "When I miss it, I'll go back, too much drama anyways"...
So, who knows what to think....Time will only tell..
Daphne :puzzled:
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WildHoneyChild
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By the way...I can't sign in under my old username, had to make up a new one...Anyone have an idea why?
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JayRob
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Thanks for the input Daphne ! 
I sustain my five points post though.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JayRob
FOURTH : If (and that is IF) he really meant it, well, he should know better, if it wasn't The Cult there wouldn't be any IAN in the first place. It
was the music and the lyrics he created with The Cult that got him a decent position in the rock and roll scene, to say "fuck the Cult" to a fan of
this band is so low life that it doesn't even deserves to be commented...I assure you all, I LOVE this band and its music, I'm not in love with Ian
Astbury, I respect him as the creative force that he is, BUT, if his attittude is confirmed, the world RESPECT will not be apllied to him anymore by
me.
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I agree with you, your fourth argument is exactly what I think and Ian should respect us Cult fans. 
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That's a great post Daphne. Thanks for sharing that.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SorumRocks
I met up with Shawn when I went to Daytona and had a great time!!! I like to think I've made some really good friends and I know I will always have a
good time when I meet them!
PS - Shawn if you read this i am thinking of coming down to Disney for winter break!
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I had a good time meeting you too while you were here Nat. Too bad we couldn't have spent more time hanging out.
I may be moving to Virignia in October but if i'm still here while your on winter break let me know, we'll go do something, but if i should be in VA
and you're ever down that way, let me know
Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence
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cultprincess
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Well, whether The Cult get back together or not, remains to be foreseen. At least we still have the music and memories of shows past. It's amazing the
amount of great people i've met who have the same interest in music Cult fans are
like no others i have ever met.
I hope they get back together again, maybe one day. I've never met the band and i can only speculate, but Billy and Ian
have been together for quite sometime and seem like brothers, there's always that love/hate relationship in any type of family. Maybe they need this
break from one another to grow personally and professionally.
I've seen Ian with The Doors quite a number of times, IMO, it looks likes he's having a good time up there (along with the rest of the band) Ray and
Robby could not have chosen anyone else other than Ian.
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I sorta kinda remember him saying the same thing in 96/97 after the first break-up.
Remember, it is still relatively recent, so maybe it is still a bit of a sore spot for him? It may have been a quick and easy way to stop people
asking questions on the spot.
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shesellssanctuary
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they'll be back.....
check ventura around november...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shesellssanctuary
they'll be back.....
check ventura around november... |
what do you know that noone else knows :puzzled:
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JayRob
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The real pisser in all of this (like it's been in the Cult history) is that there is ABSOLUTELY NO OFFICIAL WORD about it all ??? Why ? Is it that
complicated to give the fans a little,minimum attention and actualy say something through one of the many channels they can use to do it ??? Even if
it is to say that The Cult is over and break us apart. It would be decent.
JRoberto
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I agree with you JayRob...I should have asked Ian about that. Of course, at the time I was really flustered. But it does seem like this happens every
time with the Cult. I just hope Ian patches things up with Billy...He said some fighting words...But again, there have been contrasting stories about
the future of the Cult. It seems to depend on how Ian is feeling. I guess by now we should be used to waiting....
~Julia/LuvAstbury
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Billy will be touring with Dead Men Walking soon so I'm sure someone will pin him down and get the scoop.
Like it or not, Ian is a bit of an emotional flake and tends to slag whatever he was doing before compared to what he's up to at the present time.
Billy is much more straightforward and I'm sure will provide some answers, good or bad.
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Cult or no cult?
I agree with Jay Rob. I haven't been listening all that much to The Cult the last six months. One of the things I like about Marilyn Manson is that he
communicates with his fans, lets them know where it's at and tours Europe. And now people wonder why he sells more records that The Cult…
I will always love The Cult, but Ian does owe us something, if it weren't for us fans he'd still be playing in universities with The Southern Death
Cult.
I went to a Mission gig in England once and was scared stiff. I was frightened of meeting all our old fans. -Billy Duffy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JayRob
The real pisser in all of this (like it's been in the Cult history) is that there is ABSOLUTELY NO OFFICIAL WORD about it all ??? Why ? Is it that
complicated to give the fans a little,minimum attention and actualy say something through one of the many channels they can use to do it ??? Even if
it is to say that The Cult is over and break us apart. It would be decent.
JRoberto |
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I know where you're comming from JayRob and i fully understand the point you are making...no communication from either Billy or Ian can make it really
dificult for the fans to be kept in the picture of what is going on (or not) with The Cult...
But lets just wait a minute...how the hell would they communicate with the fans anyway??...they have no Offical web site (and when they did...what
happened?) to communicate to us through...they have no PR company working on behalf of their joint intrests...infact...with out fans asking
questions...we all would be completely in the dark...
but just HOW MANY fans are there that actually read or post on this...or anyother message board that is Cult related?...can Ian and Billy actually
believe that there is a large enough current fan base to make it worth their while making anouncements...hell we already know what they are doing in
their respective lives and careers as solo artists...we find this stuff out all by our selves...why do we need them?...we do a pretty good job
ourselves!!
lastly...and it's re Julio's point about MM and his information service...
MM has a huge fan base...he has a dedicated offical web site that publishes info on a regular basis...the web site will have a register of fans from
all around the world...it is a far bigger concern than the Cult has ever been...or will be again...and he can afford it!
maybe...one day there will be an offical Cult site owned by either Ian or Billy...or Both...which will be regularly updated by either of them with
info on current and future events that they are embarking upon...
we live in HOPE!!...
From Velvet night came forth our torch burns eternal,
For time is but a dream and our mischeif be infernal,
Black Angels watch over neglecting the living but not the undead,
Blessed are the hallowed and gracious for their blood shall keep us fed,
Hark the electric thunder drawn like moths to a flame,
To a place of wicked wonder...and Hollywood be thy name.
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JayRob
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We can only especulate on the reasons thta made him trash the band and Duffy, but I gotta be honest with you ppl, I find it to be very very lame of
him to do that.
IF they (I won't let the duffster outta this one) cared about us, they would step forward and say something about it and end the especulations, but
then again...
One last thing, if Ian thinks that the work he is doing now is better or more important than the work he did with The Cult, he is just not seeing
clearly...this Doors thing while whorth,respectful and decent, WILL NEVER CEASE TO BE A SIDE PROJECT, he will NEVER be considered a Door, he is a
HIRED vocalist singing other vocalist's songs and that's it. And even if he gets to compose and writte for their upcoming album, it WILL NEVER be the
same as doing his own thing with The Cult. I continue to wish him all the best at it and to think that he is the best man to do this job, but he's mad
if he thinks it will mean more than his work with The Cult.
When he says something as "F..the Cult" I feel deceived...because the things he wrotte inspired me on numerous occasions and with this attitude he
turns it all into a bunch of crap, and I feel stupid because I listened to it.
I hope reality bites him real soon, so he got to see things as they are again.
JRoberto
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JayRob
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Hi Andy !
Bands with far less importance, attention and money are able to maintain websites for their fans and use it to communicate with them. What is lacking
here is...INTEREST.
If they put up a decent site (it doesn't have to be THAT killer site) with a decent per-request on-line store, with a decent message board on it, a
decent bio, a decent discography on it and a mailing list it would be enough. Maybe a place for their side projects too. They might even make some
money out of it.
The fan base is not a monster one ? No. but I tell you, with all the lack of attention we get, we gotta be the MORE DIE HARD BUNCH OF FANS that a band
could ask for, why not gather us in a site and ask us help to advertise them, to bring new people to the circle ??? What ? They won't try it because
kids of these days won't listen ???!!! I tell you THEY WILL if the propper language is used, and without any need to change the band's fingerprints
musically.
They need to believe in their music and do something about it. That's all. Among us are webdesigners, marketers, IT, sales ppl, that would be willing
to help them create it, IF THEY JUST GOT THE TIME TO LEARN WHO THEIR FANS ARE !!!! :flame:
JRoberto
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POINT TAKEN JayRob
and i agree...u know i just have to make the point to everyone that we are the few and we are in the minority when it comes to fan
representation...
lets face it...of all the bands in the world...we decided to choose this one...may we all go to heaven for this act of kindness... 
i somehow doubt that either Ian or Billy has the knowledge or the intrest in a fan based web site...and they don't have enough of us bugging them to
do it...
maybe we should pull our collective talents and help SW2 with her new cultweb site...and try and get Ian and Billy involved...before they just fade
away and radiate...
andie
From Velvet night came forth our torch burns eternal,
For time is but a dream and our mischeif be infernal,
Black Angels watch over neglecting the living but not the undead,
Blessed are the hallowed and gracious for their blood shall keep us fed,
Hark the electric thunder drawn like moths to a flame,
To a place of wicked wonder...and Hollywood be thy name.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by OKWhite Falcon
I wouldn't worry too much.
Ian tends to throw himself into whatever he's currently into and focus on that exclusively.
When he and Billy were on Rockline last September to promote the DVD, he was asked about his involvement with The Doors and he was very distant about
it to say the least.
I'm guessing he's treating The Cult in the same manor while he's fronting The Doors...
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That's my take on it too. I wouldn't worry. Ian was probably just relishing the moment. Plus, this Doors gig is probably fattening his wallet a
bit, and if things continue to go well with the tour, Ian will sing the lead on most, if not all, of the tracks on the new Doors album. He is
probably trying to secure that too, which will translate into more dollars. That money will finance the next round for the Cult, and ultimately, get
them a new label. Duffy is just biding his time, ("as long as Ian Astbury wants to make music with me, I'll be here to make music with him . . . .")
and the Cult will be back in full force.
In the meantime, go see a few Doors and DMW shows, and every time you see them, tell them that you miss the Cult . . .
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JayRob
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Andie - Get them involved in the spiritwalkersite with Karin is a GREAT IDEA !!! I mean, this site ROCKS and we are already here ...
Windmill - Dose of optimism welcome ! I hope you're right and that the f...Cult
was just a momentary beef...
JRoberto
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I want to start by saying i'm pretty jacked to be replying to the first multi-page "Cult-Side" thread in months!
Ok, pretty much, Ian & Billy have the personalities of shoe boxes. We all know that Billy is the one that craves the limelight, the recognition (case
study:Sonic Temple). Ian is getting a quite a bit of what Billy craves at the moment. Voila, we have a spark! Billy is probably pissed having to
sit around and "wait" for partner in crime. **Put a little bit of starter fluid on the spark** The "side project" called The Doors is turning out
better than planned......hence the album being delayed 'til years end. **We now have a flame** Ian prolly won't be available for any kind of Cult
commitment for at least another 8-12 months. With Ian being on tour, out of touch/communication with Mr. Duffy strains the relationship further.
Banter being said through "mutual friends" adds more fuel to the fire. Ok, get the picture?
Don't get me wrong, i'm not blaming Billy if it looked that way. It's just he's the one sitting and Ian is the one in the public's eye. Mr.
Anti-Rock Star is probably having a hell of a time with his idols/bandmates and its all good for him right now, where Mr. Rock-God is spinning his
wheels guesting with Camp Freddy (which is dead right now) and Dead Men Walking (no pun intended).
So Ian will continue to spew shit from his mouth about The Cult whenever it is not on his agenda at the moment. Billy will never figure out what Ian
wants and is getting the riot act written to him from father time. Over 45yr old ROCK GOD'S aren't really in demand (i.e. Eddie Van Halen) and ours
knows this very well. The years tick away and it becomes too late......unless you want to sing with a band that has been around for 40 yrs?
We'll just have to wait and see if shesellssanctuary's (cult-cover band guy)prediction of the late fall show(s) actually happen.
woke up this morning, my head felt like a warzone cause I drank a river last nite on route #66 to Zap City..................
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I dont want to get bombarded with emails and personal problems....
however....i'll put it to you like this....
good things come to those who wait....
im not a messenger,,,,more an informer of sorts....
see you in november or december depending on scheduling....
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SSS, I just hope you are right.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edcult
Ok, pretty much, Ian & Billy have the personalities of shoe boxes. We all know that Billy is the one that craves the limelight, the recognition (case
study:Sonic Temple). Ian is getting a quite a bit of what Billy craves at the moment. Voila, we have a spark! Billy is probably pissed having to
sit around and "wait" for partner in crime. **Put a little bit of starter fluid on the spark** The "side project" called The Doors is turning out
better than planned......hence the album being delayed 'til years end. **We now have a flame** Ian prolly won't be available for any kind of Cult
commitment for at least another 8-12 months. With Ian being on tour, out of touch/communication with Mr. Duffy strains the relationship further.
Banter being said through "mutual friends" adds more fuel to the fire. Ok, get the picture? |
I'm sorry, but your post is very offensive. I do not recall seeing any recent posts or articles indicating that Billy has said a word in public
against Ian, or the Cult. I know the last conversation I had with him he did not attack either, or act as if the group was no more.
I am not even going to respond to the rest of your comments. They are just not worth it. I don't know why people have to try to act like they know
everything about the band. Reading a few interviews and meeting them after a show does not make any of us experts on the subject. No one but Ian and
Billy know what they really think.
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Maybe next year, Spring '04, Maybe.
Simply because the Doors gig will last some time, that 'vehicle' has an engine (the lore of the DOORS) and wheels (Ian/Ray/Robbie/Jims Spirit) and if
the material Ian/Ray/Robbie put out works...they must listen to the whispering wind (Jims essence)...maybe past Winter '05.
I'm an optimist about each. Ian/Doors is very cool and if they catch the right vibe, the new material CAN be good. But, the CULT is eternal. The flame
still burns, no matter what wind blows.
Enjoy the Doors with Ian this Summer, ah, the summer of '03, we'll remember it well!
In time, my friends, in good time...
Fire :flame:
"No eternal reward will forgive us now, for wasting the dawn".
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