iana
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Bast,Sidewinder,Summa*breeze!
Do any of you know what a "sugarglider" is? it is supposed to be a little creature native to Austraila,Alady that I helped trap 6 of her 11 cats so
far has one that her son does not want any longer,I have never seen one before,I know I could look this up somewhere but lazy ass here keeps getting
knocked offline,I need a new "ethernet" card,what ever the hell that is?
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iana
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http://www.sugarglider.net click on the gallery,you will fall in love with these little cuties.
I still need to know what an ethernet card is:puzzled:
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Evil Flame On
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Sugar Gliders
Hi Debi!
I can tell you a lot more about Sugar Gliders than I can about ethernet cards. I've got three of them in my living room right now munching on chunks
of apple & peanuts (their favorites). I've had them about 5 years now & they are ADORABLE. You've already seen the pictures on that website, so you
know that. They're about the size of a hamster, grey on top, white underneath, with a black racing stripe running from the nose to the tip of the
tail. They have little round ears like a mouse, HUGE dark eyes (nocturnal), very soft fur, flaps of skin that run from the front legs to the back &
are used for gliding (up to 250 feet). When they stretch out they look like a square with a head & tail. They've also got thumbs & they can hold their
food in one hand & eat it. And they bark. I'm not kidding. They sound like tiny dogs. In addition to the barking, they make a variety of chirping
sounds.
Their diet is 1/4 dry food (mixture of dry cat food for protein & parrot food) and 3/4 fresh fruit, supplemented by a powder called "glider aid".
Optimum housing is a large wire cage (about 2' x 3' by 3') with socks for them to sleep in during the day. One of my girls routinely gets her sock
stuck on one of her claws when she wakes up & it ALWAYS ends up being dropped in her water dish. I come home to find her curled up in a ball next to
her water dish & looking up at me with a very sad face until I get a clean sock out of the drawer for her.
I've been told they should be let out of their cage for exercise & that they will glide across the room if given the chance. I gave up with mine
though. Every time I took them out they found the smallest corner of the room to hide in. So much for that idea. They do run around the interior of
their cages quite a bit though, and seem much happier staying within the cage.
Glider temperments can vary greatly. If they are solitary, they tend to bond with one person. If there are two, they tend to bond with each other
rather than their owners. Males are territorial, so two males will always fight. They're fiesty little animals overall & won't tolerate any
mishandling. They've got claws & tiny razor-sharp teeth. I've got a male & a female who are very sweet & don't mind being touched or taken out to have
their cages cleaned. The second female (with the soggy sock) has a bit of an attitude & chirps at me like crazy every time I clean her cage. She also
doesn't want to be touched, but will sometimes allow me the honor of handing her a peanut.
Life span in captivity is about 15 years, and in NJ you need a $10 per year exotics permit to own them. Some states & counties require the permits &
others don't allow gliders at all (California for example).
So what the hell are they? A type of opposum native to Australia & Indonesia. Australia outlawed the export of its exotics in the 1950's, so the
gliders in the US right now are all either from Indonesia or were bred over here.
Ok, I'm done now. See you on the 24th!
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They are sooooooooooooooooooooo cute. :D
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Ethernet is broadband internet...fast connection so I guess a Ethernet card is pretty much a network card.
Fuck it all and fucking no regrets I hit the lights on these dark sets.
MetallicA St.Anger
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iana
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Thank you EFO and Darren,EFO I should have just asked anyone on the board,I just thought my Aussie friends would know but thank you for all the
info,very helpful because it looks like i'll be getting this little guy soon,Romi,I can always ship it to you:D you know i'll have a dozen questions
once I get him or her???EFO,how the hell did you ever come across these creatures?
can I count on you to be as trashy as me on the 24th.:P
GOD,I CAN'T WAIT!!!
There now,I feel better,Darren I thank you as well for your info,I need to call Sony but I bet they sell these cards in Staples or radio shack, Comp
USA??
anybody else replace one of these?:puzzled:
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Evil Flame On
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| Quote: | Originally posted by iana
EFO,how the hell did you ever come across these creatures? can I count on you to be as trashy as me on the 24th.:P
GOD,I CAN'T WAIT!!!
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Found out about the gliders while doing research about chinchillas. Trashy? I've been so busy & so tired lately, I'm likely to show up in a bathrobe
& slippers.
[Edited on 4-17-2003 by Evil Flame On]
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Sorry, been in Melbourne and out of contact for the last 4 days and just saw this.
Just a couple of points to add to the instructions above, you do need to encourage them to run around and especially to glide as much as possible, as
they can suffer from bone density problems and in the long-run can have debilitated movement as a result. Remember that they are very fragile as their
bones are thin to stay light for gliding.
At the sanctuary when we've had them, we've found that aside from their main cage, setting up a couple of moderately sized bird-houses with slightly
enlarged openings around the place at different heights can encourage them to glide and also keep them occupied. Try feeding them by placing treats in
the box, showing them it is there, then placing them on a higher point somewhere else, eventually they'll figure out where the food is and glide to
it, which is, of course, their natural way of getting to food.
Don't forget though that they ARE a species of possum (marsupial possum of course) so you have to give them things to climb. A thick bit of shipping
rope wrapped around a pole supporting one of the bird-houses will help to encourage this.
Never reach into their cage/house whenyou can't see them though, as they do scare easily and will bite very hard, also try to keep them away from
other animals as this can give them a fright and they will become very aggressive to their handler.
Mostly just let them act naturally, they'll get used to you and eventually forget you're there.
The tame ones can be very cute and cuddly, but if mistreated can inflict injuries to you that lead to scarring.
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Sidewinder 42
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**BUMPPITY BUMP BUMP BUMP**
Sorry, had to bump this cos the bone thing in my post above is important.
I don't want any cute cuddly Australians (or the animals for that matter) getting hurt
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Evil Flame On
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Hey Sidewinder, thanks for posting about the bone density problems. I'm going to try taking my little guys out of their cages again & see if I can get
them to glide.
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Sidewinder 42
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Evil Flame On
Hey Sidewinder, thanks for posting about the bone density problems. I'm going to try taking my little guys out of their cages again & see if I can get
them to glide. |
Just don't pressure them to do it, if you set it up with food treats, they'll do it naturally, or at least they'll climb around to get at it which is
just as good cos they're working all their limbs.
Try setting it up and leaving them alone in the room for about 30-60 mins (with nothing around that could hurt them of course, such as power cords
etc.)
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Hey Iana,
Sorry I missed your post. I too have been off line for two weeks due to my hardrive dieing on me. Then I had to make the decision of putting my
beautiful 12 yr old Samoyed down last week as she had suffered a massive seizure. Have been feeling blue and missing her alot as I cant walk around
the house without it bringing back memories of her.
As for sugar gliders, looks like you got a lot of great info above. Watch out for those claws, you may walk away looking as if you have been in a
rumble with a mean ol cat
[Edited on 4-21-2003 by Summa*Breeze]
[Edited on 4-21-2003 by Summa*Breeze]
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From personal experience, if ya piss em off, they'll do a hell of a lot more damage than any cat! :o
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Just some more information about gliders for you. I am trying to find a way to post some of the Australian sites on the matter (no offence, but they
providew more accurate information) but they are all password protected for NPWS and Welfare staff/volunteers only, and I can't give out my
password.
http://www.sugarglider.com/gliderpedia.asp
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This one has a list of breeders, who you might be able to contact for more info (or even buy one for those interested):
http://www.isga.org/
Important tip:
One thing I can't stress enough, so you will probably see it repeated often in these pages, is that gliders should NEVER be kept singly. They just
don't handle it well, because they are community dwellers and need the companionship of others of their kind to the point that they will actually die
without it. If you are planning to get only one to save money, don't. You'll end up buying three because the first one will die and you'll know you
have to buy two the next time. So it's better to just wait until you can get two, and save yourself the grief and expense of losing the first one!
Here's the diet given to Gliders at Taronga Zoo, Sydney:
http://www.skinhorse.net/gliders/syd_diet.html
Also, some tips on feeding:
http://www.skinhorse.net/gliders/diet.html
OK, OK, you've probably all had enuff about gliders from me by now, but I like the little buggers and want them all happy and healthy
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