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Marilyn Manson - Putting Holes into Happiness

moya - 4-13-2003 at 04:07 PM

"Putting Holes Into Happiness."

Kneel down humble men and become the height of our children. Let your heart crawl into your knee and realize that all knowledge lives through imagination. This is the nursery business, always get a photocopy.

Our cultures may continue to disintegrate but we just rebuild with abusement parks, filming the process and replaying it as situation comedy. We wear ribbons, hold hands, celebrate and concentrate on camps that train our kindergartens to shout out "star-spangled" banter.

We will medicate the lunacy of "degenerate" art with heavy doses of old-fashioned (original recipe) family virtues.

"Let's make sure all of these offensive forms of entertainment are shown publicly, and burned immediately as a warning to us all!"

In the meantime, try to stay conscious. We are sitting in the EMERGENCY ROOM waiting for the doctor, a newly elected aesthetician, to come and pronounce his diagnosis. The grotesque, malignant cancer that is our expressions and our views is no longer the disease. We are being told that the sounds and images of art are now the symptoms of the creator. We as the artists, are now considered unhealthy and incurable.

Let me remind you that the deformed scar of one man, is "love's pretty dimple" to me. The generation that lived through WWII accepted the concept of "total violence" as a solution to the world's problems. The mathematics of creative suffering and the milk of human violence are the formulas that our grandparents bottled and passed down to our parents.

These are the "traditional" values that have built "protective," moral walls around our children's world. And it is, indeed, a small world after all.

MM

[Edited on 4-13-2003 by moya]

cultprincess - 4-13-2003 at 05:28 PM

The Golden Age Of Grotesque~May 13th, anxiously awaiting MM new album :flip:

Moya, did you get your tix for his May 29th show?

romi - 4-14-2003 at 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by cultprincess

Moya, did you get your tix for his May 29th show?

I DID... :flip: YEAHHHHHHHH.........

cultprincess - 4-14-2003 at 01:03 AM

You're going to have to take pictures (if you can) and tell me all about it

Still waiting for MM to announce some Florida dates (but without Ozzfest)

Inka - 4-14-2003 at 04:10 AM

Yeah, I'm waiting for the album too, and for his gig in Poland!

moya - 4-14-2003 at 09:49 AM

not yet but soon... Romi you coming to Lisbon?

Inka - 4-14-2003 at 02:56 PM

BUT there is no TWIGGY RAMIREZ in the band anymore!

I'll be soooo down after the gig!!!

Evil Flame On - 4-14-2003 at 09:07 PM

I like Manson....but this is hilarious....

http://www.theonion.com/onion3703/marilyn_mason.html

:lol:

Ugh. The link brings you to the main page. Search "marilyn manson" from there and it's the first story that comes up.

[Edited on 4-15-2003 by Evil Flame On]

romi - 4-15-2003 at 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by moya
not yet but soon... Romi you coming to Lisbon?

Of course i'll go. What can i do..... They decide to make the concert in Lisbon.... I go where he goes. :D maybe we can meet there. It would be great. :flip:

Marilyn Manson

Stonehorn - 4-16-2003 at 11:13 AM

I have my ticket for 15 June and looking forward to it. My first MM gig! :lol:

cultprincess - 4-18-2003 at 08:44 AM

You're in for a treat

First MM concert, he puts on a great show.
I have a very good friend who lives in Ireland, he was working down here as an internship for Disney, i took him to his first rock concert, MM no less, i don't think he was ever the same :lol:

Inka - 4-18-2003 at 09:41 AM

June, 10th - it's going to be my second MM gig but the first without TWIGGY! I won't be staniding on the left side of the stage, no way!

Inka - 4-18-2003 at 09:46 AM

Gonna tell you a funny story about MM coming to Poland two years ago.
It was very controvercial because Poland generally is very catholic country. Many people were against esp. one woman who was a leader of a catholical party. The party is a bunch of stupid old people with no education etc. The woman was VERY against MM and when he learnt about it he invited her for a dinner!
She didn't want to meet him but there were many gossips that they finished in a bed.
I was very surprised when I learnt that MM is coming to Poland again.

cultprincess - 4-18-2003 at 02:57 PM

Hmmm, inquiring minds want to know:puzzled:
Yeah, i'm disappointed Twiggy won't be playing with Marilyn

I wonder who he has now

ThRiLKiLl13 - 4-18-2003 at 03:54 PM

Tim Skold will be taking over the Bass playing. No Twiggy is saddd, but the show will go on....

Build it up and Burn it to the ground.
:flame::angel:

Inka - 4-19-2003 at 04:14 AM

Do you know a name of a band where Twiggy plays now?

Angel - 4-19-2003 at 04:22 AM

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Originally posted by ThRiLKiLl13
Tim Skold will be taking over the Bass playing. No Twiggy is saddd, but the show will go on....

Build it up and Burn it to the ground.
:flame::angel:

After Shootgun Messiah it is unbeliveble that Tm Sköld are allowed in a band. Ever.
We should be glad though that he doesn't sing....

Cultpjfan - 4-19-2003 at 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Inka
Do you know a name of a band where Twiggy plays now?

He is now playing with A Perfect Circle since Paz left to join Billy Corgan's band Zwan.

romi - 4-21-2003 at 01:11 AM

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Originally posted by Inka
Do you know a name of a band where Twiggy plays now?

I think he is working in something with P.J.Harvey, but i'm not sure. :angel:

romi - 4-21-2003 at 01:14 AM

Moya, i don't go any longer to the MM concert, because i broke up with my boyfriend and i don't have anybody to go with. And i will spend lots of money to stay in Lisbon just to see one band, that it's gonna play in a festival. Maybe next time.
Enjoy it.

Inka - 4-21-2003 at 03:57 AM

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Originally posted by romi

Quote:

Originally posted by Inka
Do you know a name of a band where Twiggy plays now?

I think he is working in something with P.J.Harvey, but i'm not sure. :angel:

P.J.Harvey with Twiggy? I can't imagine these two collaborating together!:o

romi - 4-21-2003 at 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by Inka
P.J.Harvey with Twiggy? I can't imagine these two collaborating together!:o

"According to the NME, PJ Harvey is also collaborating with Queens Of The Stone Age for the ninth 'Desert Sessions' album along with former Marilyn Manson bass player Twiggy Ramirez. "

Yeah... i was right... :D

Inka - 4-21-2003 at 06:55 AM

I know you were right. The thing is that I can't imagine Twiggy and P.J.Harvey

BTW Romi, I was trying to send e-mails to you and they all were returned to me.

ThRiLKiLl13 - 4-21-2003 at 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Angel

After Shootgun Messiah it is unbeliveble that Tm Sköld are allowed in a band. Ever.
We should be glad though that he doesn't sing....

Oh but he does..... I take it "we" do not like mR. Skold??
:o
A friend gave me a six song disk from the net. This is to be part of the new Manson disk ( I guess). After MANY listens, it sure sound like Tim does about 80% of the singing there. I do not know what to make of it, BUT I do like what I hear.

Some words.......

"Don't pray for me,
I don't need your sympathy.
I don't want your god protecting me
Don't pray for me,
I don’t want your empathy
I don't need your savior saving me,
Don't pray for me."

:flame::angel:

Angel - 4-22-2003 at 04:21 AM

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Originally posted by ThRiLKiLl13

Quote:

Originally posted by Angel

After Shootgun Messiah it is unbeliveble that Tim Sköld are allowed in a band. Ever.
We should be glad though that he doesn't sing....

fair enough
we don't like MM then

moya - 4-23-2003 at 04:36 PM

thrillkill13 as in THE thrillkill13?? is that you oh my king?
please let me welcome you master... i bow to your presence...

and i already have the ticket for the show, what a way to say goodbye to the old Sporting Stadium...
:D :cool:

moya - 4-24-2003 at 10:01 AM

here's an interview from The Face magazine

http://www.marilynmanson.com/press/030500theface/01.html

moya - 4-24-2003 at 10:26 AM

from Manson's jornal, for those who care

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Trans Amnesia
Pan Amputee...or would you like coffee?
Screenagers! It is good to be back from two weeks of “waltzing to scum and base,” and I have spread the mOBSCENE video across several continents. High above Marlene Dietrich Blvd. in the city of Berlin, the sun smoldered below the concrete gutter sky like a cigarette burn in a stained bedsheet. How Edgar Allen Poetic. We set forth to the Dome of Berlin at dusk and I felt like I was in my own painting, “The Death of Art.” Helnwein and I created a living installation with two disabled nude women as families stopped their picnics to stare. Of course we documented this for future viewing. But it didn’t begin there...

My escapade took me from Madrid to Milan and then to Paris. I met many characters whose company still clings to me in distorted flashbacks like lip prints on my collar. Jean Paul Gaultier gave me a scarab beetle and a book of Hans Bellmer’s work. We talked about clothes that he will design for this tour. The mysterious and prurient curiosity of Gaspar Noe led me to a tour of Paris by night---we braved the transsexual-prostitute-breeding ground hidden in the center of the city. We talked about cinema (his film, “I Stand Alone” is one of my favorites) and we made plans to collaborate.

Determined, I headed for the birthplace of Expressionism, humming “The Alabama Song,” by Kurt Weill. It was time for The Grotesk Burlesk and dozens of mice scurried from the Kinderfeld. Their political organs had to be removed and we set them in formation, creating a metaphorical “question mark.”

A mise-en-scene...

The zeitgeist of Berlin’s “degenerate art” was infused into Marilyn Manson and the people within the Volksbuhne Theatre that night. The decadence and reckless honesty that fear inspires, made the outside world irrelevant. Suddenly, I was the most unlikely ambassador of America. It became quite clear that the critical role for an artist, particularly an American one, is to ensure that our soldiers are risking their lives to defend a country that is worth living in. But how can the irreconcilable extremes of Marilyn Manson fit into this time of political upheaval when I have rarely believed in the behavior of the government? How can I be a proud American, when America has done its best to destroy me?

SIMPLE---Isn’t this the very core of what the two words “Marilyn” and “Manson” have represented from the beginning? If the U.S. stands for democracy and freedom, then the most patriotic thing an artist can do is to fight for those liberties. My opinion is a sharpened stick, poking democracy to make sure that it's not dead. By nature, I will always point out the duplicity of censorship in the music world. If I am forbidden to use an image, a lyric or a performance in one place, I will put it somewhere else. THE GOLDEN AGE OF GROTESQUE cannot be contained in just an album.

Idea for a Hallmark card: "America needs Marilyn Manson as much as Marilyn Manson needs America." Romantic isn't it?

Pay attention!

In London, we vandalized a Versace billboard with two gigantic Marilyn Mice and had an amazing crowd sing along to the three piano numbers. Keith Flint (The Prodigy) presented me with his new band’s remix of mOBSCENE on which he sings. We discussed illegal behavior, participated in illegal behavior and became the best of friends over a bottle of Absinthe.

Villains and creeps, we have barely scratched the surface and The Grotesk Burlesk is coming home to Hollywood. This band has easily discovered how to make a fist with five middle fingers. Need I ask? ARE YOU MOTHERFUCKERS READY, FOR THE NEW SHIT?

We will write the Bill of Wrongs.

We have dismantled the recess bell. It does not toll for anyone.

Sleep now, you were not spectators. You were part of the spectacle.

Marilyn Manson

ThRiLKiLl13 - 4-25-2003 at 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by moya
thrillkill13 as in THE thrillkill13?? is that you oh my king?
please let me welcome you master... i bow to your presence...

and i already have the ticket for the show, what a way to say goodbye to the old Sporting Stadium...
:D :cool:

Yes it is I. Thank you for the artical link. I haven't had a good chance to read it yet.

Also my earlier post on the new songs I have... Latest info is that it is new Tim Sko.... But it does sound like Manson duing some backup vocals.

:flame::angel: