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Cult + Ford = $$$$$$$$$

edcult - 4-6-2003 at 10:59 AM

In addition to the Nissan commercial we have all seen, Sanctuary has been sold to Ford also. Saw a commercial last night (in Canada anyways) with the old familiar riff we all know. Even get a little bit of Ian singin some lyrics. Still got some marketablilty I guess!

Planet Girl - 4-6-2003 at 12:03 PM

Sanctuary is a great song. But Ford...Is an awful car. I'm sorry, why couldn't Chevy do it?:(

PG loves her Chevys!

Doug - 4-6-2003 at 12:45 PM

They should do rise for volkswagen... bestist cars in da world;)

moya - 4-6-2003 at 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by edcult
In addition to the Nissan commercial we have all seen


no, not all of us....

CHEVY!!

sexualpanther3 - 4-6-2003 at 07:17 PM

fuken ford.................i hate fuken ford:mad: bastards............i like chevy better!!!

Me too

Real Astbury Girrrl - 4-6-2003 at 09:24 PM

i have never seen the commercial.

Inka - 4-7-2003 at 02:21 AM

I hate comercial world!

Last evening I was passing by a store with jeans articles and saw in a window a t-shirt with Jim Morrison! But it's not like a fan stuff, you know, it's fashion! I can't imagine people who have no idea who is Jim wearing these t-shirts!

RedVelvet - 4-7-2003 at 07:09 AM

just gonna throw my 2 cents in here & say that i really dislike it when bands sell their tunes to commercials. i more than dislike it, i hate it. nothing against the artists specifically, because i understand that it's about the $ for them, and some of them need it. i think companies and advertisers that use popular songs are lazy and lack both the initiative and the creativity to create a unique ad, and i hate hearing anyone's song on a commercial, whether i really like the artist or not. it doesnt make me want to buy their product - it makes me want to turn the channel.

ok, i feel better now.


linda :)

Lizard Johnny - 4-7-2003 at 08:11 AM

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Originally posted by Doug
They should do rise for volkswagen... bestist cars in da world;)


I think they should do In The Clouds for the Abrams tank

Inka - 4-7-2003 at 09:25 AM

I love when Ray Manzarek says that 'Love Me Two Times' should be used for condom's commercials!

:lol::lol::lol:

LOVE ME TWO TIMES

doggiestar - 4-7-2003 at 01:04 PM




:flame:ON!!!

sexualpanther3 - 4-7-2003 at 09:10 PM

heh heh.......cute. go ray!!!!

OKWhite Falcon - 4-8-2003 at 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by RedVelvet
just gonna throw my 2 cents in here & say that i really dislike it when bands sell their tunes to commercials. i more than dislike it, i hate it. nothing against the artists specifically, because i understand that it's about the $ for them, and some of them need it. i think companies and advertisers that use popular songs are lazy and lack both the initiative and the creativity to create a unique ad, and i hate hearing anyone's song on a commercial, whether i really like the artist or not. it doesnt make me want to buy their product - it makes me want to turn the channel.

ok, i feel better now.


linda :)


I love it. Anything to draw attention to Ian and Billy and make them some well deserved cash is all good with me.

CultinMD - 4-8-2003 at 11:57 AM

Does anyone know how much control Ian and Billy really have over the usage of their back catalog? My feeling is that since Beggars owns the rights to that particular recorded version of Sanctuary, it is they who are brokering these deals with Nissan, Ford, et al, and not Ian and Billy (though they surely get compensated for having written the song).

The last two times Ian has been on Jim Ladd's show (once with the Doors, once with Billy), Jim has commented that he really respects the surviving members of the Doors for not selling their music to advertisers, thus commercializing the legacy of the band. Does anyone think Ian wants to crawl under the table when he hears a comment like that?

JayRoberto - 4-8-2003 at 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by CultinMD
Does anyone know how much control Ian and Billy really have over the usage of their back catalog? My feeling is that since Beggars owns the rights to that particular recorded version of Sanctuary, it is they who are brokering these deals with Nissan, Ford, et al, and not Ian and Billy (though they surely get compensated for having written the song).

The last two times Ian has been on Jim Ladd's show (once with the Doors, once with Billy), Jim has commented that he really respects the surviving members of the Doors for not selling their music to advertisers, thus commercializing the legacy of the band. Does anyone think Ian wants to crawl under the table when he hears a comment like that?


Hey Kevin,

I think it is hard to know what goes through his mind most of the time...but...my bet will be YES :cool: , down there deep inside I think he is not fond of the commercial aspects of the music business ... otherwise, The Cult would have walked a different way years ago, like avoiding multiple line ups, using Ian and Billy's talent to create music and lyrics that were more radio appealing etc .

I believe that most of the time it was "Fuck it, let's do it , let's do as we want to do it !" . Tons of respect for both of them for that :) Just my two cents.

JRoberto

sexualpanther3 - 4-8-2003 at 01:03 PM

and a nice 2c it was!!

edcult - 4-8-2003 at 01:24 PM

They have definitely commented publicly (I remember hearing/reading, just not where) that they endorsed the "Nissan" commerical. Something along the lines of ....if they want to pay you six figures for part of your song, why not? You have to pay the bills and feed your kids. If I remember correctly, it was before they signed with Atlantic, so the money prolly didn't hurt.

CultinMD - 4-8-2003 at 01:36 PM

I agree in theory, Jay. I'm just not so sure the band has been entirely successful at staying true to those principles over the years. While it's no real shock, and is certainly forgivable, that a bunch of 20-year-olds with nothing to lose would sell their souls to a corporate record label for potential fame a fortune, it's slightly difficult to understand how the same bunch of guys, now 40-ish, can chant "we are not chained to the wheel" after voluntarily doing exactly that with Atlantic records.

Ever since the Atlantic implosion, Ian and Billy have both expressed their displeasure with the corporate rock experience, yet offer no explanation for why they spent the better part of a year courting record companies, followed by two years "jumping through hoops", as Ian says, for the winning bidder. If they were hungry for the exposure that a big label can provide, it seems to me they should have been well aware of the costs that come with such an arrangement.

I'm not suggesting that Ian or Billy did anything wrong, but often I find that they are portrayed as noble martyrs up against the corporate music industry, and I just don't believe that. Those two have played corporate ball for a lot of years, and let's face it — they've exploited the medium as much as it's exploited them.

That's my two cents. Can I get change?

edcult - 4-8-2003 at 05:21 PM

I dunno about Jay, but I agree wit ya Kev.

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